As promised here I am in having to remove, for the umpteenth time and in record time, rambling statements posted in R & D. This time is a little longer than usual but it is the penalty.
superstar Mandarancio that now is the question:
decides to answer that:
omit the rest but then I put the link if you want to read the entire boiata (er ..) response mythical Mandarancio
Now se uno crede ad un amico immaginario onnipotente che gli vuole bene a me non me ne frega assolutamente niente (ancora meno del Grande Fratello, il che è tutto dire) solamente non deve spacciare per realtà scientifica questa sua convinzione. Meno che meno a me...
Ma andiamo con ordine:
“Infatti la scienza ha dimostrato che lo stato dell'universo, e quindi di tutta la materia (biologica e non biologica), è determinato da specifiche equazioni matematiche, le leggi della fisica”
Non ci siamo davvero capiti...
Tutto ciò che, per ora, conosciamo può essere espresso tramite physical and mechanical laws.
(Small aside: There are many other thing not yet, but no empirical safely then there are only theories, valid but not yet proven with certainty.)
Like when the ancient Greeks saw lightning gave them the credit (or guilt) to Zeus, slowly we discovered that it is not the fault of a big man sitting on Mount Olympus, but the difference in electrical potential. It 'appeared that things continue to go in this direction.
equations and mathematical formulas understand how it is referred to the phenomenon under consideration but they do happen, it seems clear.
So we have a bolt of lightning incinerates a tree, we understand how it works Do not bring up God and they still want to give the credit (or blame) for that lightning to their invisible superhero.
later is even more hilarious expressed the view:
Contrary to widespread today, science has shown that the brain, so the matter can not quite generate consciousness, whose existence implies the presence in humans of an entity non-biologica/non-materiale.
Oh yeah? Neurons are there to do that? Wait, now that I read I understand, obviously your are on vacation ...
fact we now know that our brain is just a collection of particles such as electrons and protons, interacting through the electromagnetic field. Each biological process is due only to chemical reactions that in turn are caused by electromagnetic interaction between electrons and protons of atoms that make up our body. Each neuron (brain cell) and each cell are simply collections of electrons, protons and neutrons, with a certain spatial location, the electromagnetic interaction can be attractive and this fact means that attract the particles can form certain geometrical arrangement in space . The properties of each molecule (including molecules DNA, hormones, etc.). and every biological process is due only to the laws of physics, more precisely, because our bodies do not occur in nuclear reactions and gravitational forces are too weak to interfere with molecular processes, each biological process is due solely to the laws of quantum electrodynamics.
Obviously whoever wrote this thing has not the slightest idea that there is also quantum chromodynamics and, among other things, the Freedom 'asymptotic particles inside a proton.
In simple words: Do not build monuments
particle accelerators by millions of euro to take a picture e poi replicarla sempre uguale, le collisioni fra fasci di protoni, per esempio all'LHC, danno SEMPRE un risultato diverso, diverse subparticelle risultanti, di diversa velocità e diversa massa. Alla faccia delle leggi perfette di Dio...
Andiamo avanti che c'è sempre più da ridere (o da piangere):
La scienza ha dimostrato che tutti i processi chimici, biologici e cerebrali consistono unicamente in successioni di processi fisici elementari, i quali sono determinati unicamente dalle leggi della fisica quantistica. Tale visione dei processi biologici non può rendere conto dell'esistenza della nostra vita psichica; dunque il materialismo is incompatible with science.
Ah yes, your neurons are still on holiday ..
Moreover, any attempt to explain our mental life in the context of materialism implies that what suffers, loves, desires, senses, etc.. in us are objects such as electrons or electromagnetic fields. But the objects I can not feel anything, items can not prove neither joy nor sorrow, nor pleasure nor pain, etc. ..
I say, but you are there or are you doing?
are interpretations we give to electrical impulses and chemical colors non esistono, sono una parte di luce che viene riflessa e che il tuo cervello interpreta come colore. Un impulso elettrico che è stato trasformato (alla rovescia, tralatro, ottimo progetto Signore..) dalla retina e trasmesso attraverso il nervo ottico. La stessa cosa vale per i nostri pensieri, impulsi elettrici che vengo interpretati dal cervello.
Se si ipotizza che il campo elettromagnetico sia l'origine della nostra vita psichica, allora la sola logica conclusione sarebbe che anche la nostra lavatrice, la nostra televisione, il nostro tostapane di tanto in tanto saranno depressi o felici o sofferenti... Infatti, dal punto di vista scientifico non vi è alcuna differenza tra i campi elettromagnetici present in our brain and those present in the apparatus.
Perhaps you forgot to say that there is no difference, at the atomic level, including a sandwich with mortadella and a tiger, or between brain neurons and cells that make up the hole ass ... (Maybe I'll reveal the secret?)
Award to the electrons in our brain properties (such as to generate feelings or emotions) and not attach the same property to all other electrons of the universe, it means contradicting the quantum physics, which states that all electrons are identical and indistinguishable, that all have the same exact characteristics and properties.
For no one, and I mean nobody, has ever imagined that a clock radio can think through the electrons which pass through it. For the umpteenth time, there are cells that turn electrical impulses into what we consider to sight, smell, taste, love, etc. .... NON electrons.
addition, the laws of physics state that electric impulses generate only electromagnetic fields, so the idea of \u200b\u200bthe typical physical conditions in which electrical impulses in the brain generate sensations, emotions, etc.., Is in striking contradiction with the laws of physics. In turn, the electromagnetic waves generated by electrical impulses in our brain are equivalent to those generated by any other electrical pulse, and these waves come from our brains and are scattered in outer space at light speed, like all electromagnetic waves.
blissful ignorance.
The electrical impulses do not generate only electromagnetic fields but also heat (work out the resistance of the oven) and depend, however, how they are used. It would be like trying to iron a shirt with a full HD TV. Are not the same electrons that pass through the user?
Dulcis in fundo:
A questo punto sorge la domanda : da dove ha avuto origine la nostra psiche ? Il fenomeno della vita psichica dimostra che la psiche ad un certo punto certamente comincia ad esistere in noi. Le leggi della fisica dimostrano che la psiche non può essere il prodotto di processi fisici, chimici o biologici. Dunque l'origine dell'anima è trascendente rispetto alla realtà fisica.
Sì, e quando inizia questa anima?
L'uomo nasce prematuro perché la sua scatola cranica non passerebbe attraverso il canale del parto se fosse pienamente sviluppata. Millenni di selezione naturale (non è una parolaccia) hanno now meant that a human baby is far, far less than one animal of the same age. He does not see, can not walk, can not articulate the movements (the things they do well doo few minutes the horses, for example).
It concludes:
I think it is safe to say that today the existence of the soul and the existence of a transcendent God be proven scientifically.
And I, instead, I believe that if one wants to have an imaginary friend is free to do so but should avoid trying to demonstrate a fable by arbitrary interpretations of scientific discoveries that tend in the opposite direction.
Here, as promised, the link:
Astaroth, 28/05/2010
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